• teft@lemmy.world
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    Ctrl-shift-esc will open the task manager directly. None of that Carl alt del nonsense.

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        I assume this terminology originally referred to an actual interrupt handled by a kernel interrupt handler, and half of the people in this thread have no idea what that means.

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        That’s so dumb, but okay.

        Edit: dumb that using the shortcut to open the task manager doesn’t interrupt the system. That’s what ctrl-alt-del did before windows 8 or whenever, open the task manager regardless of what was happening. Now I have to use that annoying lock-screen menu to open the task manager to kill processes if things are locked up. Didn’t know that, horribly unintuitive

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            If your computer is locked up, you have to use ctrl-alt-del, with its menu of options including the task manager, in order to interrupt the current processes locking up the system.

            Using ctrl-shift-esc launches the task manager program without a system interrupt, meaning it won’t unlock the computer. Which is dumb, because why else would I be opening the task manager other than to interrupt some out-of-control process? I guess you could be using it to monitor or something else, but that’s what I’m used to opening the task manager to be doing. I didn’t even realize this until this comment.

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              I check ram and cpu usage and change startup apps or task priority just as much as I need to force quit.

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              then just press ctrl alt del if you want a system interrupt??? there’s a reason they have bindings for both. it’s not much harder, the task manager doesn’t exist solely for killing some program that won’t respond.

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      I have no clue how long it had existed on Windows at that point (I think I got it after several years of using XP?) but I discovered Ctrl Shift Esc to task manager pretty late…

      Which is interesting because I had used that combo a lot on my old 80s computer before un-learning it. Ctrl Alt Del didn’t exist on it (alt wasn’t a thing and the key labelled “delete” was the equivalent of backspace). Ctrl Shift Esc was the *break* command back then, which let you interrupt whatever program was running.

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      As the fifth person to say that, I think the author may have baited you into writing this. It’s sinilar to when someone misspells a word in the title of a TikTok video, as tons of well meaning people will comment on the error, thus generating attention.

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      Faster to open, doesn’t send a system interrupt.

      If all is well: CTRL+SHIFT+ESC

      Stuck program needs a kick in the ass: CTRL+ALT+DELETE

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    Had a beast of a desktop machine back in 2000, it could even decode DVD real-time. But sometimes DVD playback would hang. Pushing the power button 5s would switch off the machine, but 3-4s would get DVD playback working again.

    That’s how I learned that the road to success is to bully and intimidate… At least your hardware

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      Back in the 00s, when you told Windows to sort a big directory by modified date or so it would take ages, but be faster when you scrolled up and down. That’s still the case. Presumably that’s because explorer will launch more concurrent “get file metadata” tasks. Overall it’s still slow, though.

      It’s actually not NTFS’s fault, but explorer: Nushell gets file metadata in at most 1/100th of the time (the sorting itself is negligible), Linux is still faster at handling NTFS than windows even then, though, nushell on windows is merely fast enough to not be annoying.

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      True, but CTRL+ALT+DEL sends a system interrupt in addition. Breaks a lot of deadlocks, hence why people think it’s magic.

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      I’m pretty sure CTRL+ALT+DEL used to be the task manager shortcut, but around 7 or 8 a menu was added with logout and shutdown options. I don’t know how long CTRL+SHIFT+ESC has been a thing, but it’s an effective replacement (and easier to press with one hand :] ).

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      Yeah, I hate how multi-process apps never really show their memory usage very well anymore in Task Manager. Been using Process Explorer since before Russinovich sold to Microsoft and it’s easily been the best one I’ve used on Windows to get a better picture of what is going wrong.

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    Yeah, windows task manager doesn’t do shit if you are already low on resources. My desktop doesn’t have a lot of resources to be used up and there have been a few times task manager is just as bad as the programs I want it to kill due to lack of resources.

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      It will very gladly show you all the resources are being consumed by some service you don’t need, can’t uninstall or disable, and will just consume more resources by restarting if you terminate the process.

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        Funny, because you can uninstall or disable every service in Windows. But you would lose functionality, so most do not do that.

        You linuxians really only know Windows from the memes, don’t you?

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          Ah, yes, I’d love to disable core components of windows that are using 100% disk. I’d loose the pointer? Great! Explorer? Fantastic! The file indexer? I didn’t need files anyway!

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      It better runs, because everything that’s not responding will be killed.

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    Lol every time

    I know it’s just psychology (and any resource reallocation that happens when task manager opens) but it’s still funny

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      I have totally caught malware checking to see if task manager is running, and cooling it until it is closed. Some cryptocurrency mining trojans do this. You can verify it by using a tool other than task manager, e.g. System Explorer or Process Hacker. Usually they’re not smart enough to poll for third party tools, so they’ll quiet down when only task manager is opened and not when you’re using any third party tools.

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    what i really want, what i really need, is just a windows equivalent to xkill. window not responding? ctrl+alt+esc, click. it’s dead along with its entire family.

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    I am still convince that soon or after they will discover an hidden function in Windows that overclock briefly every component when task manager is opened