• nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    I have more money and better credit than four years ago, yet im further away from buying a house or even a new car than I was 4 years ago, so honestly nothing really changed in the personal quality of life category. My salary went up, and so did the carrot on the stick they’ve been dangling out of my reach for decades. I feel like this question isn’t a great measure for Bidens campaign.

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      So you’re better off and still feel like you’re on a treadmill. That makes sense.

      And yeah, I wouldn’t pose the question like that either. Not enough has been done. The minimum wage is the same. I don’t fault him for that but it would be huge for those who struggle the most.

      It has to be a comparison with what the other side has to offer.

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        My wealth grew less than inflation so theres that too. In absolute terms im better off but factoring in everything I don’t think anything changed really, credit score did but thats hardly as much Biden, or any president, as it is some contested school debt notes falling off the reportable period because its been to long.

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    Four years ago there were refrigerator trucks full of corpses and a mob was storming the capitol to overthrow the government on behalf of a would-be dictator.

    Nothing resembling either of those things has happened yet this year, so I think in a lot of ways we’re all better off regardless of our individual circumstances. Only the second one has much to do with who’s president though.

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      Fully agree with you on the second one, but I will say that the first one very much has to do with who’s president, too. Remember when Trump was insisting to everyone who wanted to obey him that they shouldn’t wear masks, and should go to work / school while they’re sick? And those people started affirmatively attacking people who were doing nothing but try to protect themselves and others? Remember when Anthony Fauci had to have a security detail from the US Marshals?

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        The one person keeping Ohio in check on covid safety (Amy Acton) was getting death threats until they resigned.

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    4 years ago, the orange traitor shitcunt was telling us to bleach our lungs and stick UV lightbulbs up our arses.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    “Well Donald, I’m glad you asked that question man because I hope everyone in the country takes a moment to think back when it was like in March of 2020,” Biden said.

    The Democratic president reminded the audience that the coronavirus had reached America, hospital emergency rooms were overcrowded, first responders were risking their lives to care for the sick and some nurses wore trash bags due to the scarcity of personal protective equipment.

    Morgues were being set up outside of hospitals because so many people were dying, unemployment shot up, the stock market crashed and grocery store shelves were bare, Biden said.

    “Donald Trump is no longer president, that’s the first thing,” Biden said, adding that COVID is under control, 15 million jobs returned and the stock market rebounded.

    There’s also a view that the public largely has forgotten the turbulence of Trump’s presidency and that, to win reelection, Biden needs to remind them of what it was like as he presents himself as the more stable alternative.

    “You gotta elect Colin as your next senator so Ted Cruz joins another loser, Donald Trump,” Biden said.


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    Personally I was better off 4 years ago, but I was incredibly lucky during the pandemic. And I dont care about that, I’m not voting for trump no matter what.

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    things being very bad in different ways under two different presidents does not make one a better candidate over the other nor does it make either a good choice

    where are they hiding the better candidates?

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    no

    income is a fourth what made four years ago, inflation is continuing to rise, everyone around me is complaining about struggling, none of the issues from four years ago were fixed such as health care and minimum wage and everything else even personal freedoms are way down and the police are more militarized

    what the fuck and where the fuck and when the fuck is this doddering old fool?

    still not allowed to vote too

    shit with smell good products sprayed all over is being advertised as better than shit without smell good stuff on it

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      I won’t say that’s not true for you and your friends, because I have no idea. But for the country as a whole, particularly for people struggling, it is mostly exactly the opposite of what you’re saying. I.e. not only are they not still having to go into their housekeeping jobs even though they might catch a disease that might kill them or their family, but they’re mostly making more than they were, even adjusted for the (quite high although lower than pretty much every other country post-Covid) inflation.

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        I certainly don’t blame the president for inflation, because I can see how all the corporations just decided to raise their prices because everybody else was raising their prices. It kinda seems like a rush to take all the profits they can like it’s their last chance to make money, which is quite disturbing to reflect on.

        Personally I’ve only become more prosperous throughout the terms of the last 3 presidents. Biden’s presidency has been mostly positive improvement over Trump’s time in office. I’d never vote for Trump, and have voted against him 3 times already. My main problem with Biden is his repeated calls to ban guns, because individual liberty is the most important issue of all and gun bans are authoritarian garbage.

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          I certainly don’t blame the president for inflation, because I can see how all the corporations just decided to raise their prices because everybody else was raising their prices.

          That’s actually an excellent point. Since it’s been shown that a lot of the price increases actually have nothing to do with economic conditions the companies are facing, but are just them raising their prices because they can get away with it and keeping the extra money because they want to, it seems a little extra silly to blame Biden for that (even above the silliness of blaming him for inflation at all, if you’re not going to credit him for wage growth.)

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        That’s not true at all.

        Adjusted with inflation, assuming all people hired got salary bumps to offset inflation, you’re looking at 3% to 4% of the population. That is not most. That is not even many. That is a few.

        A few people are better off today adjusted for inflation. The majority of people are not.

        If you did not get a 20% to 25% bump during the past couple years you are worse off. If you got a 20%-25% pay bump, you’re pretty much where you were before except major life goals are more expensive so you’re also worse off. If you got 30%+ bump, which some definitely did, then they’re better off. It is NOT most.

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          What is your citation for saying this? Mine is here. The yellow bar at the very top, +5.7%, represents the poorest segment of workers making wage gains that outpaced inflation. Where are you getting your 3% or 4% numbers?

          I’m starting to suspect that a lot of the Lemmy population may be in the tech-savvy early adopter white-collar-job segment up in the top 10% (the brown bar showing -5%, wages dropping compared to inflation for the very top earners as tech jobs slow down and the wage gap shrinks). I’m not saying that wage drop at the top is a good thing necessarily, but it’s very different from everyone being worse off.

          Here’s a breakdown of the average wages overall; that black line at the top shows a year-on-year compounding growth in wages adjusted for inflation in 2020, 2021, and 2022, even facing the difficult conditions that kept almost every other first-world country down in the bottom half of the graph, where wages are actually dropping.

          Those are my sources. What are yours for the specific claims you’re making?