I’ve been halfheartedly saying I’m going to start a religion based on ads being bad for one’s soul. It makes more sense every day.
How do you intend to acquire a congregation?
Where do I sign up?
If he tells you, he’d be advertising and that’s against his religion.
Just live the principals and you’re already a congregant, my child
That’s not advertising, that’s prosthelytizing. Advertising has to be for goods and services. And just telling someone about something isn’t advertising. It’s when you spend money or resources to bring attention to that thing that it counts as advertising. People keep saying that putting a sign on your building stating the company name is advertising. It’s not.
Seek and ye shall find.
well, they just picked up one follower.
By advertising. So it is now officially a religion since it’s full of hypocrites.
Checkmate, atheists!
is there public awareness that isn’t advertising?
Yes, this isn’t advertising. It’s proselytizing. Advertising has to be for goods and services and it has to be explicit. Me telling you about the company I work for isn’t advertising.
That’s not advertising…
Thit’s nit idvirteesing…
Lmao
I don’t, i suppose
Word of mouth & direct delivery tablet cuneiform maybe, go old school
I’m a convert. Who wants to write our hymns?
Glory to Ublock on high! May it’s righteous code bless our browsers for all eternity.
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From now on, referring to it incorrectly is considered herecy and punishable by up to 17 whip lashes.
Edit: not gonna fix the typo, I’ll take my lashes
I was about to join untill the whiplashes. I prefer something bit more laid back
Perhaps we can interest you in some gentle tongue lashes?
ooh sounds like me to myself when I’m having doomsday hangover. I’m in
do it so we can claim anti ad blocker measures are discriminatory
“The real money is in starting a religion.” - L. Ron Hubbard
I’d join. Nice username
You too, Detective
Nice Trick
Your move Satanist church.
Please add me to that newsletter, and may the billboards be cast from your sight, brother!
With that, you could sue Google and other companies pushing anti-adblocker tech for discrimination, just bring up all the cases when the supreme court sided with cristofascists to oppress other people.
I’ll subscribe
Not just for security, selling snake oil is also grounds for ad blocking.
I don’t need “grounds” for ad blocking, and neither do you. My property rights say that I’m entitled to modify the computation my system is doing as I see fit.
I’m pretty sure the corporate property rights say you’re not allowed tho.
so maybe laws are fucking stupid and you do it because if basic human dignity or something?
To be clear, property rights don’t come from laws; they are natural rights. “Property” as a concept stems from the fact that when Caveman Oog gets himself a neat tool-shaped rock and is holding it in his hand, nobody else can use it because he’s the one who has it, and the only way they could use it is for him to not have it anymore. He controls it and its use is exclusive to him. The rock is his property. The law doesn’t create that concept; it only codifies it so that the rock can remain Oog’s when he sets it down, instead of him having to guard it all day.
“Corporate” “property” “rights” are a whole different thing:
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Contrary to the Dred Scott-level bullshit the SCOTUS excreted in Citizens United, corporations are not people and don’t even have an inherent right to exist, let alone any other rights. A person (i.e. a sole proprietor) has rights. People associating with each other (i.e. a full-liability general partnership) have rights. A group granted the privileges of limited liability and taxation as a separate entity via incorporation exists at the pleasure of the State, and the State has every right to impose conditions on that existence in exchange for granting the privilege.
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Copyright is not “property.” A copyrighted work is an expression of an idea, and ideas are as near to opposite of property as it is possible to be. Not only does an idea stand in stark contrast to Oog’s rock in that it can be freely shared to the other cavemen without Oog losing possession of it, the value of it comes from the act of sharing. A creative work that never leaves the creator’s head is worthless, while a work shared with the whole world is incredibly valuable. (Don’t take my word for it, though: Thomas Jefferson – the guy who wrote or helped write the Copyright Clause, BTW – made a similar point, more eloquently explained.)
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Copyright isn’t a “right” either. It, like incorporation, is a privilege granted by the State (or more specifically, Congress, but Federalism is beside the point). It does not exist because the creator of a work is somehow entitled to it, or even because the People wish to reward creators for their work. Copyright exists for the sole and express purpose “to promote the progress of science and the useful arts” – in other words, to enrich the Public Domain. The mechanism of copyright, granting a temporary monopoly in order to encourage the creation of more works than would otherwise exist, is nothing more than a means to an end. The goal of copyright is for it to expire!
Anyway, point is, I’m kinda already making that distinction between basic human dignity (natural rights) and artificial laws (copyright). The situation we find ourselves in today, where actual property rights of actual people are being subordinated to
IntellectualImaginary Property “rights” of imaginary “people” is some pants-on-head stupid, ass-backwards, Bizarro-world bullshit!‘natural rights’ okay so why are they right(s)?
I honestly can’t tell if this is treading into sovcit territory or not.
I mean, if this makes me a sovcit then it means Thomas Jefferson was one too, so at least I’m in good company.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It’s not. Protecting natural rights is the justification for a state in the first place.
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No way they can be the same.
The adblock stops malware, makes my browser perform better, and stops things from disrupting me. The most common result of anti-virus the complete opposite of each of those 3.
I cannot express how much I loathe antivirus software. Mostly it’s been because it has been nothing but trouble in my work environment, without ever catching anything, for over twenty years. It’s the modern corporate snake oil.
Good for you. If your company is regularly the target of industrial espionage and your coworkers have a hard time detecting phishing mails, you’re happy to have a good AV suite as a further security measure.
Yes, I’m well aware security is a team sport. All it takes is one person to make a mistake, once. I still remember that the Iloveyou virus penetrated our network back when I was in university, through the Unix lecturer…
Still fucking annoying though.
Although I do realise most of my annoyance comes from shitty configuration and poor human decisions. Oh, let’s run a full deep scan at 15:00 everywhere Friday. It’s not like the students will need to use those machines during their Comp. Science lab, right?
simple, don’t use an antivirus, stick to windows defender (before the linux crowd comes in yes I know there are basically no viruses threatening you chill), your own brain, and also not an admin account!
Don’t download shady shit, and if your PC asks you for some mysterious admin permission - the answer is “no”. If something does slip through windows defender will most likely handle it no problem!
Ugh Linux… I tried so hard to get viruses working in wine but in the end I gave up. Full compatibility my ass…
Linux gets viruses too (see recent xz-utils vulnerability that almost got into production environments) and its kind of a shame that corporate antivirus software like Norton and McAfee end up ruining the reputation of antiviruses. In theory the idea of having a software that can scan for common viruses is a great way to increase security, even if it shouldn’t replace common sense. I’m not too sure if there are any good FOSS antiviruses, but if there aren’t there should be.
good FOSS antiviruses
ClamAV is the Linux antivirus library I’m most familiar with.
I used to have it on my Raspberry Pi to test some shady files. Besides of the Linux thing, they’d also need to get around the fact I was running things on AArch64, which is a rare combination. Maybe Windows on AArch64 would have been an even safer choice.
we’ll never be a 100% safe, no matter what OS we use. We can’t defend ourselves against backdoors and newly abused vulnerabilities in any meaningful way
That’s partially my point. You can never be 100% safe, but there’s a lot you can do to increase your safety besides just relying on intuition (edit: because intuition is usually the weakest link, see social engineering/phishing tactics). Anti viruses (when they aren’t just bloatware) are part of that.
Your second point about not meaningfully defending against backdoors and vulnerabilities is kind of against the point. You can totally defend against backdoors by not giving apps admin privileges, limiting network access, etc. so that damage can be limited even if an exploit happens. Then, if some backdoor or exploit is discovered, it’s only as dangerous as the permissions you give that app.
oh i meant backdoors and vulnerabilities in the OS itself, hah, i’m pretty sure the system has all the permissions
Please enable javascript to view this static content.
Coming soon with web 3.0…
Please pay $0.01 as a piss-poor solution to DDOS.
If I saw a popup tell me to disable my antivirus Id nope out of there even faster than the ones that demand I disable my ad blocker.
Yep. I see popups asking to disable adblocker the same way as that.
Back in the days it was a regular feature of pirated software, and worst part is, in many cases it was legit as some antiviruses like Kaspersky seemingly went for full on crusade against piracy
It’s still a regular feature of pirated software.
Oh jeez
Haven’t seen in a while
Windows Defender hates keygens.
To take that a step further, it hates key server emulators for Microsoft products more. To the point that AutoKMS and the like are listed multiple times and periodically get relisted as something new so that even if you’ve flagged it as being allowed it will still eventually get re-blocked in the future.
A good Adblock is a digital equivalent of an armored car. You can go everywhere, comfortably. Visit the most terrible sites or places. All this time protected from the bullets of capitalism.
Don’t be silly. Wrap your willy.
Don’t stick your oar in lake Katchakootie
As a sysadmin I have so many devs asking me to set up antivirus exceptions for their apps, disable UAC, run the service as full admin, etc
Hell no. Submit your shit to virus total and learn how to program.
Antivirus programs are way too inaccurate to be used authoritatively, especially for developers. It’s not uncommon that some virus will use a well-known open source library or packaging tool, and then the antivirus decides that any binary with that same library or stub from that packaging tool must also be a virus. When your program depends on it, if you can’t turn the AV off or make an exception, you’re just fucked. Also, programming is an iterative process. Make a small change, test, repeat. Requiring that developers upload and wait for a scan from some third party for software that they compiled locally and have no intent to distribute is a giant waste of everybody’s time, especially the developer’s. It’s a huge drag on productivity for the sake of bureaucracy.
I’m quite sure the guy above is not talking about devtest environment, but production deployments…
Nah, the heuristics shit picks up a shedload of nothing as dodgy sometimes. No-one submits work in progress stuff to be accepted with the antivirus providers to bypass that. Only final versions.
Don’t have a problem where I work. Likely the choice of antivirus, or they’re whitelisting our development folders automatically.
You clearly don’t know how programming works. Or how idiotic most antivirus software is.
When apps have code obfuscation in use, injects into dlls, and has detection for when running in a vm when it has no business doing any of these things then yes I think I can complain to the devs about it.
Windows defender is a Little jumpy though when it comes to self compiled software other than Visual Studio‘s
Why is the antivirus software detecting my Cortex-M3 binaries as dangerous to an amd64 computer? Happens on Windows 7 through Windows 10, across 3 different employers.
And how do I submit my builds to Virus Total if they’re getting deleted as soon as they come out of the linker?
What website that ask you to disable antivirus ? Capt ?
They don’t, because it would be an insane proposition. The point of the meme is to say that asking to disable my ad blocker is like asking me to disable my antivirus.
Ad companies don’t or very poorly vet their submissions, and it’s incredibly easy for malicious actors to slip hostile code in through ads. Ad blockers prevent that and are a first line of defense.
Not websites, but some people ask it to use their applications/games, that turn out to be viruses.
I often disable my adblocker on sites of smaller and more independent news companies, if they don’t run Google ads (I’ve heard them getting dropped in countries like Hungary and Russia for obvious reasons).
