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So, NBC found about 141 18-29-year-olds & called them in their latest “poll” released today. Here’s what NBC doesn’t tell you: research shows 9/10 Gen Z-ers would rather text than phone call. I’m sorry but if your polling method of Gen Z is calling, you should all be skeptical.
I’m Gen X and I wouldn’t answer my phone if an unknown number called me, and if they left a voicemail saying they were trying to poll me for something and to call back, I’d assume it was a scam. I’m guessing people younger than me mostly feel the same way.
I remeber when I was in college, and polls were showing Bush ahead of Kerry. We all complained that the pollsters only called landlines, and that millennials only had cellphones. We were convinced that the polls were wrong because of this, then the millennials didn’t show up to vote because Kerry had voted to start the Iraq war, and then Bush won reelection.
This feels so similar.
I remember this being said all the time in 2015. Both sides (legitimately used in this case) will always blame polling errors when the polls don’t say what they want. Among republicans, they say that conservative voters are more distrustful of authority and so don’t answer the phone or respond to polls, or that people are too embarrassed to admit to their support for Trump but will vote for him anyway.
Unless you want to claim the type of Gen Z who would answer a phone poll would bias the results this is irrelevant.
Controlling the sample and excluding parts of the sample very much screws the results of a poll.
That’s not how sampling works. Unless the excluded group is biased toward a result it doesn’t change how representative it is. Are you claiming that the type of Gen Z who would answer a call is biased for or against Biden?
You don’t have the ability to determine bias in a straight poll, yet if you exclude 9 of 10 on the sample you’ve created a bias because they are not representative.
That’s again not how sampling bias works. If you called these people and asked what their favorite color was, you wouldn’t have an unrepresentative sample. It’s only if your sample is itself biased toward a response. Very small samples might have larger error bars, but they aren’t inherently unrepresentative unless the method of sampling is corelated with a response.
F your sample is not representative then the poll is invalid. Perhaps you know better
This is fucking stupid. As if Trump wouldn’t be cheering on Israeli genocide. He fucking moved the embassy to Jerusalem.
And he thinks Biden’s foreign policy is bad? People have dangerously short memories.
It’s like the complaints about student loans, his administration has repeatedly tried to do something to help and has literally had the Republicans sue the aid out of existence!
Biden wasn’t my first choice but even I can see the daily articles showing that his administration is trying to do something about these things and being blocked at literally every single turn.
Fucking stupid or not, it’s the political reality. If the party doesn’t adapt, they’re going to have problems.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24171452-230343-nbc-november-2023-poll_111923-release-v2
833 people answered their cellphone from an unknown caller and spent 15 minutes answering multiple choice questions about their politics. “Shockingly” the majority were over 60 years old, and 36% were unemployed (i.e. retired).
Polls are garbage. Chum for the clickbait sharks.
The more interesting number was 77% disapproved of russia. Square that one up.
Polls are not universally garbage. In fact, they can be eerily accurate, especially if you aggregate the data.
This poll is garbage and how the media reports on polls is garbage.
Unless this polling place is pure amateur hour, they’ll correct for demographic imbalances. The crosstabs for young voters will have greater error bars, but the poll won’t be inherently biased.
I got this and I was one of the ones that said I strongly support. That phone call was bs and the guy could hardly care to ask the questions.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
“Failed promises, student loans, foreign policy in general,” said Democrat Zico Schell, 23, of San Diego, when asked why he disapproves of Biden’s job performance.
“Jury verdicts in Trump’s trials, unforeseen events both foreign and domestic, and the rigors of a campaign all have a funny way of upending what may be true today,” Horwitt said.
By party, only half of Democratic voters (51%) say they approve of Biden’s handling of the war, compared with majorities of independents (59%) and Republicans (69%) who say they disapprove.
The poll finds a plurality of American voters, 47%, believing that Israel is defending its interests in the war, and that its military actions in Gaza are justified.
Biden trails Donald Trump for the first time in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup in the NBC News poll, though the deficit falls well within the survey’s margin of error.
Additionally, the NBC News poll shows Trump maintaining a significant national lead over his rivals in the Republican contest for president.
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I got randomly chosen for a poll and said I strongly support Biden even though I don’t because I want to stop this narrative.
