“The temporary restraining order granted by the Travis County district judge purporting to allow an abortion to proceed will not insulate hospitals, doctors or anyone else from civil and criminal liability for violating Texas’ abortion laws,” Paxton said in a statement shortly after the judge’s decision. “This includes first degree felony prosecutions…and civil penalties of not less than $100,000 for each violation.
Paxton added, ominously: “The [judge’s temporary restraining order] will expire long before the statute of limitations for violating Texas’ abortion laws expires.”
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It also goes against everything the Bible actually says regarding abortion. The mother’s life is more important. Hell, purposefully causing a miscarriage was only a fine under Biblical law.
He’s a fucking monster & I can’t wait to see him incarcerated Federally. I will actually write him to taunt him.
Are you able to provide citations?? I have people in my life that need to hear these verses.
How unusual, I thought Paxton liked avoiding law enforcement for breaking the law. He certainly avoids his own summons.
Wilhoit 's Law:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
To state the obvious, he’s the former.
I hope he needs medical care and every doctor refuses to help. Literal monster.
That would be nice but I don’t imagine there are many doctors who would refuse to care for him, because their oath is to care for the sick and wounded and to show them compassion even if they don’t deserve it.
Ok then we need to regulate his life too.
I agree that would be the most likely outcome in my fantasy scenario. However it brings to mind why are docs not helping these women when faced with jail or losing their license? If they’re charged to do no harm how could they stay and practice in Texas knowing they may face a situation where they have to turn away a pregnant woman in crisis?
My guess would be that because leaving would be difficult to begin with and further if they left then the care that they could have provided may not be provided at all.
Doctors aren’t exactly poor. It’s probably easier for them to relocate than other middle class or rather upper middle class people.
I think you’re overlooking the fact that most people have families and friends that they cannot easily abandon, which was my thinking in my post.
yeah i hate that. “Just move thousands of miles away bro, it’s easy!”
Exactly, there isn’t a single state in the entire USA that has an overabundance of medical professionals.
They have taken an oath to do no harm, after all. Letting him die would be a mercy to the state of Texas. Literally would save countless lives.
I’m sure they just replace him with someone equally shitty.
I really hope they just ignore him. I understand there are significant risks and consequences here but at a certain point doing the right thing has to trump whatever possible negatives would come about from disobeying an unjust law.
Even if you did lose your medical license and paid a hefty fine I feel like you’d ultimately be fine. There’s gotta be a doctor out there that would revel in the fact they’d be known as the kickass doctor that disobeyed Ken Paxton. I’m sure you could pivot into something else. Might even be happier and richer making a YouTube channel or TikTok clock or whatever it is the kids are doing these days.
I share your idealism, but I keep convincing myself that nobody is that brave.
We’re in a real sorry state if hoping for the existence of one good doctor out of all the doctors can somehow be considered idealism
I don’t know the law to well but I wonder what would happen if the mother tried to place attempted murder charges against the attorney general using the precident that a judge already ruled it to be a legal health procedure. Would a judge not be able to place him in prison denying bond because the threat made is still possible?
I hear rumours that losing your medical licence only really applies to that one state, over there. Image if all the doctors lose their licence, just in those states that don’t allow abortion. Would no doctors at all make them rethink their stance?
That’s a lot to ask of the doctor and hospital. They have a lot to lose. While I agree it would be very satisfying as an external viewer, I also don’t want to see any of them catchconsequences for doing the right thing. Buying her an airline ticket to civilization would be cheaper, even if you included the Uber to the hospital
Worse, the Texas Supreme court just took his side.
We’ve got to stomp these #christofascists back into the gutterchurches they spring up from.
TikTok clock
That really got me good.
I honestly can’t see his angle here. In Ireland, a similar case galvanized the famously culturally catholic population in support of abortion. This would be a slam dunk to very publicly allow as a sign that this is a reasonable law. Not allowing it is obviously, clearly pointless in and of itself, as the fetus is non viable. Not allowing it is politically a show of power, but one that even pro life people historically don’t support. He must just think people are different in Texas and Ireland, but I hope he’s wrong.
It’s a losing battle, but Republicans (particularly the ones in power) have been responding to that by doubling down for the past thirty years. It convinced their base that it’s a display of strength and leadership while everyone else looks on in horror.
I guess we’ll see if their strategy ultimately pays off.
Then as more prenatal departments close and doctors move out of state many will be confused by why there is this lack of services available and why younger family members are facing a hard time trying to give birth or find the medical support they need.
It wasn’t that hard when they were young. Life was just great when they were younger… /s
I have a feeling that the people who support this guy are also the group that think vaccinating babies is evil and that home births are better.
I literally had a TON of women on Instagram try to attack me for calling out a post saying doctors and hospitals cause more harm than good in the US.
Most of it was along the lines of “women have been giving birth without doctors for thousands of years, our bodies know what to do”, all while ignoring the fact that both infant mortality and women’s birthing mortality rates have dropped from around 1.5% (of ALL women, not just pregnant women) to 0.015% (don’t quote me on that, it’s been a while since I looked up the numbers).
I even had one woman say that because I’m a man that I’m not allowed to say anything and her “genetic feminine memory”, as if she’s some Gao’uld symbiote from Stargate, trumps all “so-called medical doctors degrees”.
How do you talk with these people?
Are doctors legally bound by the “do no harm” Hippo-oath or have I watched too many shows and it’s like the “are you a cop, you gotta tell me” lie?
At this point, the only way forward I see is for all doctors banding together to refuse healthcare to any lawmakers, politicians etc that have restricted healthcare to others. Then just wait for one of them to break a leg, get appendicitis, cancer or a mild car crash…
I think you may be looking at this from a non-doctor/healthcare worker perspective. Typically, people go into healthcare because of a desire to help people. Allowing others to suffer - even objectively “evil” people - is antithetical to their being. Not saying that there aren’t doctors who are entirely in it for the money, but I believe those are a minor percentage of the whole.
There is another way forward, and it’s happening already: doctors are leaving places that continue to implement shitty laws. Some out of protest to the laws, some out of fear that they may provide proper care for a patient and be sent to jail for it.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The baby has no chance of survival, but under Texas law, there are only two options available to Cox: a vaginal delivery, or a C-section.
Travis County Judge Maya Guerra Gamble heard from both Cox’s lawyers and the state of Texas — whose lawyer argued that Cox didn’t meet the threshold for a medical exception to the state’s multiple abortion bans — earlier this week.
On Thursday, Judge Gamble reportedly teared up as she read her opinion from the bench: “The idea that Ms. Cox wants so desperately to be a parent and this law may have her lose that ability is shocking and would be a genuine miscarriage of justice.” She granted the temporary restraining order, clearing a path for Cox to obtain an emergency abortion.
Cox, Gamble wrote in her opinion, “has already been to three emergency rooms with severe cramping, diarrhea, and leaking unidentifiable fluid.
Texas attorney general Ken Paxton wasted no time threatening anyone who would aid Cox in obtaining an abortion.
“The temporary restraining order granted by the Travis County district judge purporting to allow an abortion to proceed will not insulate hospitals, doctors or anyone else from civil and criminal liability for violating Texas’ abortion laws,” Paxton said in a statement shortly after the judge’s decision.
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