This discourse was going around twitter today apparently and im curious takes from here.

Which is it for you?

For me i prefer playersexuality. I want to be able to romance any romance option regardless of my charachters gender. I dont want to be stuck with only Arcade Gannon if i want to do m/m

I agree that sexuality can be important to a charachter. But if you wanna do that, seems like the charachter can just not be a romance option.

That said. In RPGs devs can do what they want. You want a charachter to be monosexual and a romance option, have at it. (Unless theyre all straight, then fuck you).

I do kinda hate what The Sims did by adding monosexuality. Felt like such a virtue signal that made the game less fun. All Sims being pansexual was always more fun for me. Especially since i usually play that game as a pansexual slut. Unless i decide my player Sim is mono, but thats on the player’s end.

Monosexual townies in the Sims should at least be optional (is it? Idk havent played Sims 4 since this update).

  • autismdragon [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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    6 months ago

    Idk i find the idea that bigotry not being the same as it is in the real world is a “cop out” actually limits creators in an unhelpful way. In one of my fantasy worlds, queerphobia exists in some cultures but not others, and functions differently from the real world in the cultures where it does exist. Also related, but racial constructs are completely different. Now obviously the difference here is that ive thought this out rather than just eliminated it to not think about it. But thats for a highly in depth kinetic novel with lots of world building. I think its fine for a story to just not want to deal with that aspect, but still have same gender romance options.

    I also find the “if it doesnt involve suffering its not real queer romance” idea reductive and kind of upsetting as a queer person?

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      I also find the “if it doesnt involve suffering its not real queer romance” idea reductive and kind of upsetting as a queer person?

      if youve never experienced homophobia then you have not shared the experience that, as i said, every single gay and bi person ive ever met has experienced. i dont think its reductive to say that that makes it fundamentally different from a relatable portrayal of a gay relationship

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        I wont say that ive never experiances bigotry but i will say that queerness has been much more positive and experiance for me than a negative one. And that im exhausted of queer media (not games, tbf) that focuses on what feels like suffering porn and prefer lighthearted stuff.

        Your preferences arent wrong though. But for me, a queer charachter (and their romances) only feeling queer if they experiance bigotry is very grim. Queerness doesnt have to be suffering. In fact, we are fighting for a world where it isnt.

        Guess im just escapism pilled though.

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          at no point did i say that im looking for “suffering porn” or media that focuses on suffering or even CONTAINS suffering at all. i just cant relate to a relationship of two or more “gay” characters who have NEVER encountered the concept of homophobia in their lives. that is an inextricable part of the experience of being gay on the planet on which i live.

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            Eh ok fair. Sorry for reading more into your words than you intended

            I still think i dont need a charachter to experiance or talk about experiancing homophobia for them to feel validly queer though.