• chrizbie@lemmy.nzOP
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    11 months ago

    Yeah it’s always strange to me that most people are working class yet most people are so allergic to the idea of socialism, thanks Russia

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      11 months ago

      P r o p a g a n d a

      Also the history of centralized control over industry hasn’t worked out too well. I’m more of the Richard Wolff philosophy of democracy over the workplace, along with a very strong social safety net, including, but not limited to a UBI that is enough for people to comfortably live on.

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        11 months ago

        If everyone got UBI, no one would eventually be able to live comfortably off it.

        Edit: Also, “propaganda” but “the history of centralized control over industry hasn’t worked out too well” LOL

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      11 months ago

      Huummm… thanks Russia? And not the CIA? Why would Russia be responsible for people hating socialism?

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        11 months ago

        Well whatever, the whole Soviet thing didn’t really go very well

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          It ended really badly, but how did it not go very well during it? Honest question here.

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              Authoritarianism doesn’t really mean much. And according to the US (through the CIA) itself, Stalin-era USSR was more democratic than appeared in western media.

              https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80-00810A006000360009-0.pdf

              But in any case, even if that was the case, it wasn’t “authoritarian” after Stalin. Like y’know, most countries after WW2 (not just Italy and Germany btw. Or people forget Churchill and FDR, and the “war economies”? The internment camps, jailing of “political dissidents” etc. etc.).