ngl russia is not making it easy to give critical support lol
“the imperial powers use lgbt rights/feminism as a wedge fot justifying imperialism” ought to be met with these governments resolving the grievances of these movements so they can’t be coopted into anti-government plots.
it’s bad morally and it’s bad strategy,
Yea “they’re pointing out a bad thing we do to make us look bad” is pretty fucking weak
That’s what some socialist countries are doing, like Cuba and Vietnam. I don’t expect a lot out of Russia though.
The East German method.
Fellas is it gay to refract light
Yes, the rain is gay
Thus the immortal words: It’s raining men, hallelujah.
The Moscow Times? Isn’t that basically Radio Free (Insert Enemy State Here) in print format?
Didn’t think I’d see the Moscow Times posted here.
hey at least its not the kyiv post
people have been posting OSINT accounts for like two years
I say bring it on. I know everyone is ready to forget that they took Oryx seriously and said stuff like
“Nobody can deny Western weapons are very effective against Russian equipment.”
I look forward to the usual “look I want free healthcare as much as the next guy and want to have a real government instead of a CIA GANGSTER POLICE STATE that bombs civilians for no reason but the alternative is just as bad, and in addition, these savages are nothing like us,” crap that’s been used against Syria and Libya and almost Ethiopia recently! They were revving it up! People are sort of keeping China in this vague category of “they are alright, critical support, but not getting my hopes up in case the all powerful warlords of my country need to try to disintegrate them with bombs & I need to remain neutral”
So now we just have to pivot back to the normal “I don’t understand why all these anti-war leftists support Saddam Hussein and want to hug and kiss him? It’s just making things harder for us Real Activists.” refrain that keeps people from even approaching the discussion of what a semi-peripheral country is
I failed to understand most of it, but I think this is a brilliant post. I’ve read it maybe four times now, and its beauty and mystery deepen with every pass.
What I mean in that screed is
1️⃣ people remained “neutral” but kept supporting the western narrative throughout the past 2 years
2️⃣ people don’t have an actual geopolitical analysis, they have the libertarian “muh tax dollar spending” antiwar argument which is completely anemic. i would prefer ancient bandung maoist takes
3️⃣ the accusation of marcyism against people who do actual geopolitical analysis has been making a comeback, it’s a great way to learn nothing from all this
what I recommend instead is everyone read abt that & also how western NGOs used things as innocuous as techno to lay the groundwork of the anti ethnic russian movement. look at how the far-right grows in poland etc
Thanks I think you’re joking. Hopefully. I say bring it on bc they get to read these posts
Sincerity is hard to express on an anonymous web forum. This is the kind of posting that makes hexbear a special place. I like your post.
Yea they have the scoop here it is nice. People mostly don’t tolerate imperialist takes here. I just think it’s hard for everyone to both learn regional history + politics of Ukraine, and read a bunch of stuff about the development of the global south so they end up accepting a lot of premises which they shouldn’t.
Modern Russia is an embarrassment to the USSR that once took them to the stars. It’s incredibly sad to see them become just as chudified as the US. What capitalism does to a mother fucker.
This is why I don’t understand leftists who oppose China and other AES based on specific social issues like LGBT rights. Look at the imperfect rights of LGBT people in the USSR and tell me that you’d rather be LGBT in the post-Soviet states instead.
Nothing got better as a result of the fall of the USSR unless you were a Patriarch in the Orthodox Church. Can’t imagine why anyone would rationally advocate for that shit to happen again.
So much for the free speech right
. Please wake up.
Did any of you actualy read the stupid article?
A video shared by ultra-conservative bloggers showed an unidentified man threatening to turn the pair into the police for wearing a Ukrainian flag pin and rainbow earrings.
Yeah, I’ll just casually wear western values AND a flag pin of our current mortal enemies in time of war and expect nothing will happen?
Did nobody actually watch the video? Is it because its telegram or what lol? The person is actually literaly wearing a Ukrainian flag pin. Whether or not she had any LGBTQ symbol or not is not the only point, heck I’m pretty sure nothing would have happened without this galaxy brain decision to wear an Ukrainian flag.
But it gets worse
“Also, during the process, the earrings themselves were examined, and it was found that they have the shape of a frog with an image of a 7-color rainbow,” Egida quoted an unnamed defense attorney as saying.
And then you call Russia right wing? Going to 4chan and posting a rainbow flag doesn’t make that place any less of a neonazi shithole. Why a frog specificaly? Is that not an obvious dog whistle or what?
Don’t misunderstand me, it absolutely sucks that Russia is a socialy conservative shithole. I can give you the benefit of doubt and say you’re just some random Ukrainian expats completely clueless that happen to be LGBTQ but you have to damn well pick your battles, you’re in Russia not New York, you don’t get to wear an Ukrainian flag in time of war, period. This would be true literaly anywhere else in the world too or do you think you get to wear a German flag in Moscow 1943 just because you’re an expat?
I am confident this would not have happened without that incredibly bright decision and this is a stupid struggle session almost embarrassing, and you say Americans lack critical reading ability.
Also The Moscow Times despite claiming to be Russian is online published from the Netherlands. Yeah that is about as legitimate as Putin launching a Russian version of NYT lol.
Calling the rainbow flag “Western Values”
Thinking all frogs are dog whistles
I’m diagnosing you with a terminal case of online, the cure is to step outside and touch grass for 10 hours (not consecutively)
we got Wat Tambor up in this Hex???
The Techno Union is at Hexbear’s disposal
Bit idea: wear a Russian flag pin and bear-shaped rainbow earrings around Lviv.
Did any of you actualy read the stupid article?
This isn’t the news mega. Of course no one read the fucking article.
Also The Moscow Times despite claiming to be Russian is online published from the Netherlands. Yeah that is about as legitimate as Putin launching a Russian version of NYT lol.
Here is a Russian source if that is a problem, saying more or less the same thing: https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6480674
Liberal analysis
GOOD post
Bad take.
No government should be able to stop people from expressing themselves in whatever way they see fit, as long as that expression isn’t hurting other people.
I know Russia used to be the seat of the USSR, but that doesn’t mean I have to give the modern, chuddified nation it’s become benefit of the doubt.
I keep being berated as “chauvinist” to stand in solidarity with [not
] country’s queer liberation movement to
So I don’t know how I’m supposed to feel without offending someone somewhere with my “paternal” concerns.
stalin shouldn’t have stopped at berlin
Normal country
I find people in general tiresome. They all do this shit to us for some reason or another. Makes it hard not to have hard feelings about the whole thing.
Being against the Uganda anti-homosexuality act doesn’t mean you stop supporting anti-imperialist struggle and freeing Africa from the debt system.
I don’t know what it is about Russia being a bit more developed and having a capitalist government which has shifted a bit towards nationalization of resources since the collapse of the USSR that makes people think “imperialist predation on this country demands neutrality” whereas the same issue is obvious to them in Africa. Except when it’s Ethiopia… man all it takes is Radio War Nerd to be like “fuck these guys” 😩😫😩😩😫 and they have an army of these chumps out of nowhere
Most propagandized people in history fr fr
Same… people just generally suck.
Sometimes I wish I was a turtle, or a bird. Not worried about some mayo-chugging animal attacking me because penises taste good.
Just vibing in my tree 🌳🐦
Well that’s one way of cleaning up. Time to sort through the mess.
Why would anyone here give Russian critical support? This site confuses me
They have little to no hostility with socialist countries for one thing. They’re a good trade partner with a lot of the global south and they’re starting to pull out of normal relations with Israel . Russia’s UN ambassador last year called Israel an “occupation.”
Domestically they’re about the same as any other capitalist oligarchy from what I know, plus they have a bunch of reactionaries in high levels of power which sucks. At least they don’t have mass shootings like where I live.
We (they) just had our first ever female perpetrated school shooting a couple months ago actually
Critical is an important word in that phrase
They are currently fighting against NATO and western imperialism. That’s gotta be worth something, even if their domestic laws suck and I would not want to live there.
The us is the global imperial hegemon. Russia winning a war against the us will not make Russia the new hegemon, but instead destroy the current unipolar system. It will make it more feasible for leftist movements to develop across the world.
Acknowledging this state of affairs does not mean you have to believe Russia is a “good guy”
This site confuses you only because deprogramming a lifetime of being steeped in imperialist propaganda can be hard. Part of that deprogramming is recognizing that almost everything Russia is doing internationally is good and worthy of support, including fighting US imperialism/NATO and Ukrainian banderite fascists.