And I went on their page to subscribe for a lifetime membership, and they wanted 20 bucks, which I was okay with, but it does not include Major Updates! I guess I’ll buy it and just click the do not check for updates button but that seemed kind of, I don’t know.

I still think they’re pretty cool for not hassling you more than they do.

Am I wrong that this bothered me?

  • MyOneEyedWilly@real.lemmy.fanEnglish
    692·
    3 个月前

    I’ll say what I say to everyone about this, WinRAR is awful. If you need a program for this, user 7Zip or Peazip. Personally, I’m 7Zip for life. 👍

    • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      34·
      3 个月前

      Idk why users even think about buying and using winrar out of pure habit and because “I have used it since 2012”…

      I wozud gladly pay 40€ instead to the 7zip maintainer. He is doing gods work with 7zip and the filemanager has way too much good features. Same for notepad++

    • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      3 个月前

      I’ve been using it for, geez, around 25 years now out of habit. I should really try 7Zip.

  • Jaysyn@kbin.social
    551·
    3 个月前

    I understand wanting to pay for the years you’ve already used it, but is there really any reason to use RAR over 7zip since 7zip will uncompress RAR & seems, from personal use, to have better compression for most filetypes.

    • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      82·
      3 个月前

      I’ve heard the dev for 7zip is a bit of an ass if you need something fixed or feature requests, but otherwise not really (unless you’re using it for work and your workplace prohibits russian-made software)

      • federalreverse-old@feddit.de
        101·
        3 个月前

        7Zip is open-source and can be audited which is something people do from time to time (e.g. there was an encryption issue that was fixed a few years ago). No real reason to fear it simply because the author is Russian.

        • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          5·
          3 个月前

          I wholeheartedly agree! Government (and government contractors) may have no say in the matter though, and if your boss says no, well, “no” is a complete sentence.

  • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de
    39·
    3 个月前

    I would just donate that money to 7zip or PeaZip creators that would benefit everybody.
    WinRar works good with .rar files because they created them just to sell buissness licences for something that can be as easly done with tar and gzip.

  • redcalcium@lemmy.institute
    391·
    3 个月前

    That’s just how software licensing work before subscription, right? You’ll get a permanent license key that valid for that version, then if you want to upgrade to the latest version later down the line, you’ll buy a license upgrade (usually at discount).

    • dan@upvote.au
      342·
      3 个月前

      Yeah this is pretty standard for software licensing. Free upgrades indefinitely is an unsustainable business model.

      • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
        121·
        3 个月前

        Free upgrades indefinitely is an unsustainable business model

        But unlimited free trial isn’t?

        • dan@upvote.au
          8·
          3 个月前

          Hahaha true! Maybe they were going for a similar model to what VMware used to do: Provide ESXi for free for usage in homelabs, so that people get hooked and buy licenses for business use.

          • Max-P@lemmy.max-p.me
            6·
            3 个月前

            That’s precisely the model. They don’t care that much as long as people end up with plenty of RAR files, and when you need it as a business most of them will make sure everything is properly licensed to avoid any legal liabilities.

            And by making the trial keep working forever, not many end up cracking it either, so you keep nagging them and some people probably end up paying.

        • federalreverse-old@feddit.de
          31·
          3 个月前

          It was an important model in the 90s and early 2000s. It helped that ever more computer users came online at the time many of whom wanted very similar utilities and that those shareware companies often basically consisted of a guy in a basement converting Diet Coke into code.

    • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      3 个月前

      Thanks for being the only person in this thread to actually respond to the question instead of blabbering about different software.

    • Syn_Attck@lemmy.today
      10·
      3 个月前

      Business use? I don’t know of anyone else that would pay. Your average user just uses zip (er, Compress File) and calls it a day.

    • amio@kbin.social
      6·
      3 个月前

      Because when you simply ask for donations, the vast majority of people don’t.

      • skulblaka@startrek.website
        2·
        3 个月前

        Depends on the project. Dwarf Fortress for instance survived about a dozen years completely on donations. But that’s a video game, not a tool (and one that people feel quite strongly about as well).

  • promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi
    12·
    3 个月前

    Correct me if im wrong, but I think I read/watched something a few years ago which basically explains why winrar has a free trial but never actually enforces it. It had something to do with copyright law details, and how making it a paid product extends the copyright protections on it so that corporations cant legally use the code for a longer time. Im not sure if I’m even remembering it correctly, because it was several years ago

      • promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi
        5·
        3 个月前

        As far as I remember it was so that they couldn’t use it to create their own paid version. I think the dev wanted it to be free, but found this loophole. If I find the video I’ll edit this comment and link it

        Edit: i was partially wrong above. Its not for the reason I thought it was, but rather as a business strategy. Individual users keep it relevant so theyre allowed to keep it for free, while businesses have to pay for the license to avoid being sued. Businesses are its main source of revenue. Here is a video explaining it. Its not the video I remember watching, but it seems to be correct.

  • neidu2@feddit.nl
    91·
    3 个月前

    I bought a winrar license to a friend of mine as a Christmas gift not long ago.

  • Jarix@lemmy.world
    2·
    3 个月前

    Thank you for your generosity. Its okay with me if you care about this opinion at all.

    I think winrars legacy is not that it remains the best choice, but that they will earned and maintained our respect for so many years.

    Their legacy hopefully will be that our subjective experience will be made better any time some other entity emulates them.

    Hopefully it will lead to as much positivity in the future indirectly as it has in the past directly. In a world that doesnt appreciate long term thinking planning and reacting, thank you for your choice.

    You are a customer of winrar. And you didnt have to be. If everything was like this it fix capitalism