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Mary Morrissey apologizes after being filmed dumping liquid into backpack of Democratic legislator Jim Carroll
Mary Morrissey apologizes after being filmed dumping liquid into backpack of Democratic legislator Jim Carroll
Look, I like guns far, far more than most people, but I draw the line at the NRA, and Wayne LaPierre’s suit-fetish. Most people that work on 2A issues at a local level will tell you that the NRA will swoop in after a deal has already been made, and fuck everything up. If you look at the history of Heller v. D.C., you’ll find that the NRA tried to kill the suit before it even got off the ground, because they were afraid it would hurt their funding.
If you want to support 2A causes, the Firearms Policy Coalition is on of the few right now that’s both effective, and appears to avoid other ‘culture wars’ (e.g., “anti-wokeism”) nonsense. At a non-policy level, the various John Brown Gun Clubs are doing good work, the Liberal Gun Club is helping create a space for people that are both pro-gun and generally identify as left of center, and the SRA is pretty okay once you get past the tankies.
there’s a war on guns with anti-gun zealots trying to take away rights little by little by little…
it is a slippery slope to the hell of tyranny
you should be grateful for the hard work the supporters and members of the NRA that are only trying to prevent the US from descending into a totalitarian monstrosity in which people’s only choice is how low to bow
Yeah you are a right wing type.
War on guns and muh rights and tyranny, it’s all right wing talking points.
No-one is “waging a war against guns”, it’s a bullshit argument, just like “guns are needed against tyranny”
What people want is sane gun laws, so that -for example- crazies that want to shoot up schools and such, can’t get their hands on them. I’ll assume you disagree there and you enjoy school shootings and would want to arm teachers because nothing is better than a gun fight in a school hallway, right?
You’ve never noticed that the gun violence as it is is a uniquely US problem? Doesn’t happen anywhere else in the world at that insane level. Yeah, each country once in a decade or damn near century might experience a mass shooting, the US experiences those at about once a day. The US is also unique in its gun laws that they want as many guns for people as possible. It totally has nothing to do with gun makers having politicians int heir pockets, mixed with people like you who are Brainwashed into actually believing you need guns to protect against the US armed forces
I’m literally laughing while writing this, because you peope actually believe that a) you’d stand a chance to survive even a minute, and b) you’d actually fight tyranny. Trump literally is claiming multiple times he’ll install himself as a dictator, and his gun loving followers not only love him for it, they just go in and claim democracy is bad.
All US gun laws have done is cause suffering and death, and yes, guns and ammo should be heavily restricted. That would make your country liveable instead of it being the hell hole it currently is.
i’m not sure the number of dicks that a person needs to suck to no longer be in the right wing camp, but i am way past whatever number that is
you’re completely wrong. the solution isn’t fewer guns, it’s many MORE guns. if teachers all had guns, none of these school shootings would happen
the problem is that in the US mental health is not free and mental health evaluations are tied to people being deemed second-class citizens.
these laws that are designed to remove guns from crazy people mostly result in 18 and 19 year olds who are at higher risk of going crazy specifically avoiding mental health help so they aren’t permanently denied rights and become second-class citizens, and they are already likely to avoid mental health help as a result of cost factors
shockingly, many teenagers with mental health problems don’t have just bags of money lying around to pay for extremely expensive professionals while in a highly stratified society with extremely unequal wealth distribution.
you and your ilk create bizarre incentives for people to not get mental health help, encourage schools to be completely gun free, and then are pikuchu-level-shocked when some crazed 19 year old doesn’t get mental health help and then goes to a school in the USA and kills children
YOU are saying all the left wing talking points, and they may sound nice in a country that has a safety net, and there may be so-called data to support these theories that if you disarm everyone then everything is better, but the reality is if you disarm everyone, you set the stage for a new white nationalist dictator to decimate the USA without providing that much additional safety that couldn’t be accomplished in other ways
Instead of complaining about too many guns, you should be advocating for free guns for teachers and making health care universal and disentangled from other aspects of civic life
but it’s SO much easier to call me a right wing maniac right? And it’s SO much easier to push ideas that would never work in the US and are not only politically infeasible but would also be disastrous… At least everyone will think you are smart for parroting all the liberal talking points.
The NRA hasn’t done jack shit in decades. As I said, the NRA did their level best to kill Heller v. D.C. before it even got off the ground, and that was the single most important 2A win in the last 50 years.
Don’t give me that bullshit about them being the line between the US and tyranny, when they won’t even speak up against tyranny when cops murder legally armed citizens.
You are confusing actual results with people being on the right side of a conflict.
The NRA, even if it is an incompetent worthless organization as you suggest, at least is trying to stop the slippery slope towards a society of people who kneel to the wishes of the new king.
The corruption of police does not mean an excuse to de-arm the populace so they can be lose their freedoms to authoritarianism and the NRA supporting guns in every context, even ones that seemingly are awful, doesn’t mean that they are awful. Perhaps the NRA supports cops doing awful things because they don’t want to lose a large pillar of support.
Instead of criticizing the very people who are preventing society from crumbling into a new technocratic kingship, what about thanking them? What about saying “thanks NRA for encouraging the world to be filled with guns?”
Only those ignorant of history (and to be clear, I am not implying this is you, I am explicitly saying this is you) are against the NRA and it’s wish to prevent the world from going to pre-democratic times in which only the king decided who should have arms.
No, I’m not. The NRA is not on the right side; they’re on the side of authoritarians. They’re on the side of the boot that is kicking you in the face. They’re on the side of the cops that will be the ones disarming people, and on the side of the christian nationalists that want to take guns from everyone but white evangelical christians. The NRA does not believe that the second amendment exists for ALL people, regardless of race, religion, age, disability, sex, gender identity, or sexual orientation, and they’ve never even tried to really conceal that. That’s why they are silent when someone like Filandro Castile is murdered by a cop.
When the NRA fixes it’s own shit so that, as an organization, they truly believe that 2A rights exist for everyone, and are willing to treat the disarming of any group as a crime, then we can talk. But that’s not who they are now, and it’s not likely that this is who they will be at any time in the future, since they’ve made it nearly impossible for grassroots change to happen within the org.