• kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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    Is it possible? Yes. Shifts in personality, desires, etc. can happen for a number of reasons. People have had head injuries and had shifts in sexuality, including a heavily increased/decreased sex drive or shift in orientation, as a result. Sexual traumas, particularly on children, can have lasting effects on their sexuality and sexual development both before and after adolescents, possibly (likely even) including homosexual behaviors where it may not have happened before… though that’s obviously not possible to know for sure. And to a lesser extent, situations like long term isolation, desperation, abuse, or social pressure can make people more likely to act in ways that wouldn’t have before as well.

    Is any of that the norm or common for homosexuals? No. First, none of those situations is likely to result in a mentally stable, well adjusted adult that simply has attractions to the same sex. Those shifts in sexuality are likely to be just one of many symptoms of those traumas, most of the rest of which will be notably aberrant behaviors or traits. Second, the majority of people who have same sex attraction, whether exclusively or in addition to opposite sex attraction, have similar stories about being interested in the same sex from the time they first began to have any such attractions. Whether there is some genetic, developmental and/or environmental component that differentiates or influences ones sexual interest is not really clear. What is clear is that those interests seem to be largely set by the time they begin to manifest and be expressed in adolescence.

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      Excellent answer. Well written, informative, objective and with good intent.

  • Bleeping Lobster@lemmy.world
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    I don’t think it’s possible to ‘become gay’ save through some sort of change to the brain eg head injury as described below.

    If you’re straight, flip the question, when did you choose to be straight? Of course, unless you’re in the closet, you never chose that, it’s just the way you are wired.

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      flip the question

      This. Belive me. If it was possible for gay people to “become straight” they abso-fucking-lutely would. The reason why they don’t is because it’s impossible.

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        If it was possible for gay people to “become straight” they abso-fucking-lutely would. The reason why they don’t is because it’s impossible.

        I don’t doubt that some would, but I’d actually be surprised if it was the majority. A lot of people see their sexuality as an important part of their identity and wouldn’t just give it up like that, even if doing so would make their lives easier.

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        I was talking to a gay family married who was married to opposite gender for 20 years and had a family before coming out. We both grew up in a world that said homosexuality was a choice.

        He said he “chose to be straight” for 20+ years and it almost killed him and ruined the lives of others.

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      I actually knew someone who “chose” to be gay one day. She was SA’d by a man and decided that she could never trust men again. So I wouldn’t say it never happens or that it’s impossible. It’s just not the norm. People are complex, and there are so many of us that even things that have a 0.000000001% chance of happening will happen to about 8 of us.

      Now that said, I suspect that this person in particular has always has been bisexual, but chose to not be with women before her incident and chose to only be with women after her incident. I lost contact with her about 15 years ago, so I can’t really get an update on her.

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        Sorry but your suspicions are correct. Your friend is clearly bi, and choosing not to be with men. That’s not ‘turning gay’, that’s just being selective who you sleep with. Is a monk ‘turning gay’ when he decides to take a vow of celibacy and not sleep with any women?

        There’s an interesting stat which I can’t remember exactly, but a high proportion of female strippers ‘become lesbian’… this is because women are more likely to express bisexuality (background rate is the same as men, but it’s far less socially-acceptable for men to express bisexuality so the apparent rate is lower), so after given a crash course in how gross a certain category of men are, they (understandably) write the rest of them off and stick to women.

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    It is possible to become gay by surgery. I have a friend who did that. He went into the surgery as a straight guy, and she came out of it as a lesbian.

  • Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world
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    In bisexuality there is the idea of “compulsory heterosexuallity” where a lot of people look at themselves and identify as straight because they have been trained to ignore their attraction to same sex partners because to chose otherwise is punishable. It’s theorized that bisexuality might actually be more common than heterosexuallity and lead to the idea that geing gay is “a choice” because for a bi person it kind of is.

    But for gay or hetero folk it is like trying to eat a food your palette finds disgusting. Like if you absolutely hate olives and keep forcing yourself to eat them you might get better at ignoring your sense of taste while eating them… But you will never get to the point where you initiate the neurological flip to where you actually enjoy it. While enjoying more bitter foods is just a function of aging up at some point certain things unique to you are hardwired in.

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    If you try hard enough, you can become anything you want.

    But on a more serious note. We don’t know. It’s the whole nature vs. nurture debate and there are no clear outcomes.

    But, as for I am concerned, you can be anything you like. Just don’t bother me with your choices. If it makes you feel good, than good for you.

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    Realistically, no. Your just kinda born that way. You might not be aware of your sexual identity but it’s in there. Some people take years to “come-out” to themselves. Often there’s denial from years in internalized homophobia.

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    I have a male acquaintance who said he deliberately chose to make himself bisexual (from straight). But I’m not sure what methods he used; and I’ve heard other folks say he was probably pretty bi before this purported self-modification.

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    I guess it means on what you define “become.”

    I think it’s definitely possible like that some just don’t know they are, but become curious at some point and try. I think that probably happens less now though, since access to porn is so easy for younger people these days, there’s probably not a lot of people that are unaware by say, age 20.

    I know people experience things differently, but I went through a questioning period about being bisexual. Turns out nope, I’m straight as they come.

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    If you try hard enough, you can become anything you want.

    But on a more serious note. We don’t know. It’s the whole nature vs. nurture debate and there are no clear outcomes.

    But, as for I am concerned, you can be anything you like. Just don’t bother me with your choices. If it makes you feel good, than good for you.