quarrk [he/him]

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  • anti scooter opinion on hexbear is really fucking weird to me

    Do you live in an area where scooters create issues?

    Scooters are a solution in search of a problem if you live in a place that already has other sustainable means of transport (separated bike lanes, reliable public transit). Vantaa is one of those places. The scooters do not solve a problem that exists here.

    People ride these things on the sidewalks all the time, it’s fucking annoying. Maybe there is a way to improve them like reducing their speed limits and adding noises like EVs have.


  • Surprised at the negative comments tbh. Imagine if a bike share program encouraged people to leave the bikes flat on the ground, wherever? The business model is a net negative for urban centers and needs to be at least reconsidered in several aspects.

    Honestly I’m wondering if the people disagreeing even live with this problem? Finland has excellent cycling and transit infrastructure. Scooters are not the only way people can be car-free here.

    The scooters also just go too fast in my opinion, and should not be silent. It is easy for uncoordinated people to ride the scooters silently through busy sidewalks at like 25 km/h.


  • Bicycles are far easier to control, and they are designed for speed with 10x larger wheels. It is much harder to weave dangerously through crowds on a bicycle because of its length. The Lime scooters are electric, so it takes zero human effort to do all of the above which creates the perfect storm for people to do dumb things on them, with more ease than a bicycle.

    There’s also the problem that there is not really a good place to place the scooters so they get littered everywhere. All this for something that doesn’t advance us past the bicycle.



  • The infrastructure in Vantaa (Helsinki region) is very good compared to most of the world. There are plentiful separated bike paths. Most likely these girls were doing something dumb considering it was three girls on the scooter. The police are considering charging the driver with “aggravated endangerment of road safety” which implies that they were likely doing something to make the driver upset (not that it excuses murder).

    I guess I’d have to see the exact road where it happened, but infrastructure doesn’t work if people go out of their way to use it incorrectly e.g. riding scooters on the road where only motor vehicles and bicycles should be.

    The solution to this isn’t taking away one of the only methods that children have to get places on their own.

    Bicycles still exist. Electric scooters are uniquely dangerous and stupid. They cause a lot of problems in urban centers while not adding any significant benefit over the bicycle.







  • Antisocial behaviour is basically anything that annoys someone but isn’t a crime, like children playing ball games in the street, or teens meeting up in groups.

    Whether something is antisocial doesn’t reference legality at all, in my opinion. A behavior is antisocial if its purpose is to resist social norms. These norms may or may not be codified into law, and of course the antisocial behaviors may only become illegal after public outcry.

    Random individual antisocial actions occur all the time. When it becomes a trend, then one has to question what deeper angst it expresses. That doesn’t absolve all antisocial behavior nor make it legitimate all the time.

    When a right-winger drives around town obnoxiously rolling coal onto cyclists, that is antisocial behavior. It becomes a trend when it captures a growing sentiment among right-wingers that the larger society has left them behind in a supposedly misguided quest to save the environment.

    Antisocial behaviors are not always good, nor always bad. It depends on the political content of the behavior.

    Maybe there is some deep class struggle in the dirt bikers that I’m missing, but more likely there is nothing particularly deep about it, and it’s just teenagers goofing around and giving their parents/society the middle finger. If that’s the case then I would agree that severely criminalizing the behavior is ridiculous — and I agree with the sentiment of this post that it is an embarrassing thing to campaign on at the national level — but we shouldn’t kid ourselves that by denying that it is antisocial.



  • A motorcycle striking a pedestrian at 50mph is practically just as deadly as a car doing the same thing.

    Cars are not inherently dangerous modes of transport. Poor road design e.g. stroads, lack of separate bike lanes, and super wide lanes without traffic calming measures, are all more important factors than the actual vehicle being used for transport.

    A bus would easily kill a pedestrian, but per passenger (assuming moderate occupancy) is far more efficient and better for the environment compared with each person riding a motorcycle. This doesn’t even consider why someone might ride a bus, for example disability, which prevents them from riding a motorcycle or a bicycle.

    Many many European cities have very low risk of injury or death to cars because the cities are designed much better. Cars are second class citizens in urban centers. This is what you should be fighting for, not focusing arbitrarily on a particular vehicle which is a symptom of a deeper issue.


  • Per capita spending is a red herring. Much of the total spending is outside of the consumer sphere. If a nation builds a low-cost rail system that can transport people more cheaply than, say, an outdated domestic airline industry — is that nation poorer than one which has a less efficient infrastructure?

    Obviously, if the question is which country is more modern and more developed, then the nation with more efficient and reliable infrastructure is superior.

    If the goal is to turn an inefficient and aging society into a good thing, then you abstract from the necessity of all costs, and regard every cost as a benefit, regardless of whether that cost was necessary.