• huf [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    5 months ago

    Yeah. When your options are:

    1. die, and have your country destroyed
      Or
    2. fight alongside nazis to avoid dying
      Unsurprisingly, you choose 2). Granted the brits probably would have helped if it were possible, but it wasnt.

    what the fuck are you talking about, the soviets beat your ass twice and your nazi shit country is still fucking there. you keep saying the russians would have taken everything BUT THEY WON AND THEY DIDNT EVEN TAKE FINLAND.

    just unbelievable amounts of imaginary worldbuilding, jesus christ.

    • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      5 months ago

      This is the average liberal understanding of Ukraine’s position in world war 2. I’ve heard my whole life that the Soviets were so evil that the nazis were welcomed. There’s never a mention of which Ukrainians welcomed the nazis (or their class loyalties). The narrative is so unscrutinized that I’ve heard this from Ukrainian descended jews saying it to me (also a Ukrainian descended jew).

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        5 months ago

        This reminds me of a Twitter interaction I saw a while ago. Some Ukraine flag guy was claiming that it was actually Ukraine which won WWII because the 1st Ukrainian Front was involved in the Battle of Berlin (not how front naming worked but yeah). Then someone brought up the rpes which happened in Berlin right afterwards and asked if that means Ukrainians were rpists. OP did a complete 180 and blamed all the crimes on “the Russians in the Soviet Army”.

        Fucking Ukraine flag bros man.

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        5 months ago

        The same people arguing the Nazis were welcomed as liberators are the same people doing the mental olympics trying to justify how Bandera/OUN were not in fact actual Nazis and how that swastika on every Ukrainian army photo is actually just a norse rune or some shit.

        Don’t bother going there.

  • super_mario_69 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    5 months ago

    the wrong side won the civil war the wrong side won the civil war the wrong side won the civil war the wrong side won the civil war the wrong side won the civil war the wrong side won the civil war the wrong side won the civil war the wrong side won the civil war the wrong side won the civil war the wrong side won the civil war the wrong side won the civil war the wrong side won the civil war