It is going to be a long fucking decade.

  • OgdenTO [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Something that really bothers me about any discussion relating to agriculture is how the word farmer is thrown around as if it’s clear who they’re referring to. Like, the farmers, I believe are actually the owners, right? And the workers are the people who actually do the farming work?

    Of course the owners are resisting extra safety measures. It costs money.

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      Since capitalist modernization of agriculture, the word “farmer” has lost all meaning. Some are genuinely trying to grow the best vegetables ever while others never touched dirt in their life and spend all day doing finance bro stuff

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      Just based on my own experience the workers are probably refusing it too. My wife works retail and practically begs her coworkers daily to wear something, anything. We give them our own supply and they say no. Americans of all stripes are genuinely unwell.

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      The media will say “farmer” and Americans conjure up an image of the yeoman farmer - the rugged, self-sufficient hard-workin’ (white) man. But this isn’t 1824. At best, the typical farmer (really, “farm owner” is more appropriate) is pretty involved in the business aspect and may even be out there regularly in the crops and checking out things. But still, most of the work is done by poorly paid workers - the overwhelming majority are undocumented. And at worst, the farm owner just lives in a sprawling farmhouse and does nothing other than cut a check to a management company (who still just hires mainly undocumented workers).

      I don’t actually want this happen because it hurts workers, but I almost would like to see racist chuds get their wish and have every undocumented worker deported. That would create an economic collapse that would make the 2009 financial crisis look like a balloon party. This country would starve as the ag industry would collapse overnight.

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        don’t actually want this happen because it hurts workers, but I almost would like to see racist chuds get their wish and have every undocumented worker deported. That would create an economic collapse that would make the 2009 financial crisis look like a balloon party. This country would starve as the ag industry would collapse overnight.

        there have been state-level crackdowns that caused problems like this but the hogs can’t look at that and stop being racist for ten minutes

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      american ‘farmers’ are latifundistas, not cultivators. they’re slavedrivers of unfree precarious labor at the most ‘personal’ level or regular bourgeois rentiers that don’t even see the harvest

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      Something that really bothers me about any discussion relating to agriculture is how the word farmer is thrown around as if it’s clear who they’re referring to. Like, the farmers, I believe are actually the owners, right? And the workers are the people who actually do the farming work?

      chad-stalin

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      I’ve said it before, the idea of them being kindly old white men that just want to tend to their fields is pure propaganda.

      What’s funny is that they don’t even need that. Most people in this country would rush to defend them since “gubmint can’t tell US what to do!”