• GnastyGnuts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      What a fucking clown. And my god, it’s the old “their own people” cry-wank. I managed to go a while without seeing it and I forgot how fucking obnoxious and gross it is as a talking point.

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        There’s a lot of work being done with those qualifiers of dissidents and civilians. Because Andrew Jackson killed tens of thousands of indigenous people and he died peacefully in his bed at the age of 78.

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      without trial

      wow that sounds bad, but the Unite—

      According to a study conducted by the American Bar Association, plea bargaining has increasingly become the predominant method for resolving criminal cases in the United States, accounting for as many as 98% of all convictions.

      oh.

      firing squad

      wow that sounds bad, but the Unite—

      The family of [Lashawn Johnson] who […] was ‘eaten alive’ by bed bugs in a filthy jail cell has agreed to a $4 million settlement

      oh. well still, that’s better than being execu—

      Darren Rainey was locked in a shower for two hours. It was designed so that he had no control over the temperature of the water, later measured to be 160 °F (71 °C). A paramedic who attempted to help Rainey wrote that he had second- and third-degree burns on over 30% of his body. It subsequently became known that his skin “fell off at the touch”.

      oh.

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        Firing squad is categorically more humane than lethal injection. Lethal injection uses a paralytic that prevents the victim from making their pain visibly apparent, and that’s really the only reason it’s used.

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      no American president murdered thousands of dissidents, his own citizens

      Yeah this isn’t true at all. Low estimates for deaths during the trail of tears are around 15,000. But maybe liberals don’t consider them citizens. Then if you consider confederate soldiers dissidents, then Lincoln killed something like 250,000 of them. I’m not gonna cry any tears for dead confederate troops though, fuck them. Truman killed hundreds of thousands of civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but that also doesn’t seem to count because they’re not American citizens.

      I hate when liberals play this game of adding qualifiers to the types of people who presidents kill. Yes, the federal government doesn’t tend to kill dissenters who are basically smug liberals whose dissent consists of posting or various consumer habits. The federal government kills dissenters like Fred Hampton, John Brown, and Malcolm X.

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        The “dissidents” killed in the revolution were also mostly Batista supporters (so literal fascists) or plantation owners and their security.

        There were lots of public sector workers that fled, but they also tended to be Batista supporters.

        My grandmother worked under a Cuban expat as a teacher in Florida who was administrator under the Batista regime and he was so openly misogynist it was wild.

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          yeah exactly, the losing side of the Cuban revolution were a coalition of plantation owners, mafia, and literal fascists. They weren’t just dissenters for no reason.

          If you listen to liberals you’d think Castro was going around personally shooting everyday normal people for holding a sign that says “I respectfully disagree”